#1480 closed defect (fixed)
Don't Set TIME_ZONE unless it is explictly needed (or put it back to how you found it)
Reported by: | Owned by: | jedie | |
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Component: | Core (Other) | Version: | |
Severity: | normal | Keywords: | |
Cc: | philz42, Ramiro Morales, Thomas Schreiber, jedie, bas@…, Gabriel Hurley | Triage Stage: | Ready for checkin |
Has patch: | yes | Needs documentation: | no |
Needs tests: | no | Patch needs improvement: | no |
Easy pickings: | no | UI/UX: | no |
Description
my understanding is that postgres needs the TIME_ZONE setting in order to work properly, and hence why it is in the settings.py file.
I just got bit by a nasty buy which was due to django setting/changing the timezone and then not setting it back to what it was after it was done. causing some pages to display CST and others to show PST (depending on weather the apache process had run a django request or not)
Is there a way django can either:
a) not set the time_zone expliclty and just use whatever the system says?
b) reset it back to what it was when it finishes up the request
Attachments (4)
Change History (23)
comment:1 by , 19 years ago
comment:2 by , 19 years ago
I would vote for not setting TIME_ZONE at all, if possible. Setting the TZ environment variable on Windows is tricky, depends on the system language and is likely to break lots of time-related stuff like time.localtime and os.stat.
See my comment in #937 -- changing TZ causes problems with the autoreloader.
comment:3 by , 19 years ago
comment:4 by , 18 years ago
The problem with Apache is one that I've run into as well, and was rectified by using SetEnv
in the httpd.conf
to ensure that each virtual host had the correct TZ
environment variable. I'm not sure what the best solution is for Django, though, because Django needs to have some way of ensuring that date and time functions return the correct values; re-inventing a whole set of time-zone conversion utilities within Django isn't something I'd be comfortable with.
comment:7 by , 18 years ago
Triage Stage: | Design decision needed → Accepted |
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This is hard to fix for all cases. It's not ideal that Django wants to set the timezone everywhere on shared systems, but it's also possible to work around as a few comments have indicated
The solution we should implement here is to allow the TIMEZONE setting to be None (or unset), in which case we will not attempt to set the timezone -- it will remain in the server's timezone -- and the client code is responsible for doing any timezone manipulations they want to do.
by , 17 years ago
Attachment: | 1480_time_zone.diff added |
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comment:8 by , 17 years ago
I've added a patch implementing my interpretation of Malcolm comments. Includes modifications to the project setting template file doc blurb comment above the TIME_ZONE
setting and for the settings.txt
documentation file.
comment:9 by , 17 years ago
Has patch: | set |
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by , 17 years ago
Attachment: | t1480-r7662.diff added |
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Updated patch so it applies cleanly to trunk as of r7662 and adding New in Django development version note to documentation
by , 16 years ago
Attachment: | t1480-r9690.diff added |
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comment:12 by , 16 years ago
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Something that was left out on purpose from documentation in the modifications introduced by the patch is the possibility to unset TIME_ZONE (in addition to setting it to None) as suggested by some comments above. Thus, semantics are kept simpler:
- The only available/documented way to direct Django to NOT touch the
TZ
environment variable is to set TIME_ZONE to None. - If is is left untouched in your settings file, then the default
'America/Chicago'
value is used.
comment:14 by , 16 years ago
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comment:16 by , 15 years ago
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comment:17 by , 15 years ago
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comment:18 by , 15 years ago
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Owner: | changed from | to
Status: | new → assigned |
comment:20 by , 15 years ago
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comment:21 by , 15 years ago
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comment:22 by , 15 years ago
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comment:23 by , 15 years ago
Triage Stage: | Accepted → Ready for checkin |
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by , 15 years ago
Attachment: | 1480-r12590.diff added |
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Patch updated to r12590 (fixed docs merge conflict)
comment:24 by , 15 years ago
Resolution: | → fixed |
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Status: | assigned → closed |
Resetting it back won't work, as at least for the duration of the request you will have a switched timezone - so your problem would just change to "timezone depends on wether Apache at that moment serving something from Django in another thread". The problem is the global state of the timezone in the libc, so if Apache is running threaded, you get problems. It shouldn't be a problem with a full MPM installation, as in that case every process should have it's own timezone and since one process can just serve one request in that model, you should be safe.
The correct solution would be to move the timezone stuff away from the operating system and do all date/time handling in Django itself, at least if you want to be safe from thread-related timezone leakage :-/
Another option would be to switch away from mod_python to FCGI/SCGI with the process based FLUP server :-)