Opened 8 years ago

Closed 8 years ago

Last modified 5 years ago

#10189 closed (fixed)

German translation improvements

Reported by: Julian Bez Owned by: Jannis Leidel
Component: Translations Version: master
Severity: Keywords:
Cc: Triage Stage: Accepted
Has patch: yes Needs documentation: no
Needs tests: no Patch needs improvement: no
Easy pickings: UI/UX:

Description

I propose some changes for the German translation. I think the word "Website" (yes, it's in the Duden) can and should be used more generously.

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i18n-german.diff (2.2 KB) - added by Julian Bez 8 years ago.

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Change History (12)

Changed 8 years ago by Julian Bez

Attachment: i18n-german.diff added

comment:1 Changed 8 years ago by Jacob

milestone: 1.1
Triage Stage: UnreviewedAccepted

comment:2 Changed 8 years ago by Malcolm Tredinnick

Component: InternationalizationTranslations

Translations go in their own component. The "internationalisation" component is for things to provide support for localisation. This is semi-important because I regularly scan the "translations" component looking for things that need committing.

I'm not going to commit this until at least one other German speaker confirms it (I'll ping somebody).

comment:3 Changed 8 years ago by Horst Gutmann <zerok@…>

The problem with the translation of "Website" and "Webpage" is that there are no equivalents in German. The whole dilemma started with some people translating "Website" as "Webseite" eons ago which is simply wrong, yet "socially" accepted ("Seite" == "page" (en)). In my opinion the only real solution here is to use "Website" for the whole ... website and "Seite" for webpages. "Webseite" should not be used anymore unless "Seite" would lead to a semantic clash within something like a book-application. Furthermore, the term "Site" should never be used as a shorthand-form for "Website" in the German translation here because of its ambiguity with the "Site" model in django.contrib.sites.

I'm honestly not really a fan of loanwords like "Website" but, I guess, in this case it's the easiest solution. The problem with the ambiguity in spoken German remains, though, but this is a problem for a another day ;-)

Just my 2c

comment:4 Changed 8 years ago by Jannis Leidel

Owner: changed from nobody to Jannis Leidel
Status: newassigned

We've been also discussing this ticket on IRC since it's not a clear matter and basically came to the conclusion summarized by zerok. I'll commit the patch after looking through the translation.

comment:5 Changed 8 years ago by Jannis Leidel

Resolution: fixed
Status: assignedclosed

(In [9938]) Updated German translation, fixes #10189. Thanks julianb

comment:6 Changed 8 years ago by Jannis Leidel

(In [9939]) [1.0.X] Updated German translation, fixes #10189. Thanks julianb

comment:7 Changed 8 years ago by Martin Winkler

Ouch, I really don't like "Webseite" as a translation for "Website", because "Webpage" would be the correct re-translation into English. What about "Webauftritt" for "Website"? Please, please reconsider this.

(I'm a German native speaker)

Martin Winkler

comment:8 Changed 8 years ago by Martin Mahner

I prefer website over Webauftritt. "Webauftritt" sounds as it comes straight out of the markting.

comment:9 in reply to:  7 Changed 8 years ago by Julian Bez

Replying to mawimawi:

Ouch, I really don't like "Webseite" as a translation for "Website", because "Webpage" would be the correct re-translation into English. What about "Webauftritt" for "Website"? Please, please reconsider this.

You have to re-read the ticket. It was opened exactly because "Website" should be used.

comment:10 in reply to:  7 Changed 8 years ago by Jannis Leidel

Replying to mawimawi:

Ouch, I really don't like "Webseite" as a translation for "Website", because "Webpage" would be the correct re-translation into English. What about "Webauftritt" for "Website"? Please, please reconsider this.

"Website" is the best compromise, it's even listed in Duden (http://www.duden-suche.de/suche/abstract.php?shortname=fx&artikel_id=1015901)

comment:11 Changed 5 years ago by Jacob

milestone: 1.1

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