Opened 17 months ago

Closed 17 months ago

Last modified 17 months ago

#22059 closed Bug (worksforme)

Either this tutorial, or the 1.4.5 release is totally worthless

Reported by: steve@… Owned by: nobody
Component: Documentation Version: 1.4
Severity: Release blocker Keywords:
Cc: Triage Stage: Unreviewed
Has patch: no Needs documentation: no
Needs tests: no Patch needs improvement: no
Easy pickings: no UI/UX: no

Description

Any beginning tutorial that completely fails to work should be expunged or changed. I could not browse to http://127.0.0.1:8000 because the urls.py file is completely wrong, or because the tutorial is incorrect.

Change History (7)

comment:1 Changed 17 months ago by timo

  • Needs documentation unset
  • Needs tests unset
  • Patch needs improvement unset
  • Resolution set to worksforme
  • Status changed from new to closed

Thank-you for the kind words. Perhaps you are not using the version of the tutorial that matches the version of Django you are using.

comment:2 Changed 17 months ago by anonymous

Nope 1.4 version; 1.4.5 software.

I have an abundance of kind words for software documentation that helps, instead of wastes two days of it's user's time.

comment:3 Changed 17 months ago by timo

1.4 was released nearly 2 years ago. If the tutorial were completely worthless, I don't think you'd be the first to discover it.

Anyway, this ticket tracker isn't a support channel. You can find ways to get help here.

comment:4 Changed 17 months ago by anonymous

Interesting theory.. but that's all it is. I'm simply reporting what's happened to me in the last two days. Version 1.4.5, as installed by yum on Fedora 18, creates invalid default sites.

comment:5 Changed 17 months ago by bmispelon

Hi,

1) The current release for the 1.4 branch is 1.4.10. If your distribution ships 1.4.5, you should file an issue with is maintainers because that version is not supported and has security vulnerabilities.

2) Your report is not actionable for us. You're clearly having an issue but you're not providing us with any information as to how to reproduce the problem which means we can't really do anything. On top of that, as Tim mentionned, the 1.4 release was released several years ago and I suspect many people have been able to go through the tutorial.

3) Django is a community project run by volunteers. Dismissing our work the way you do ("totally worthless") is not the way to report a problem you're having.

As Tim wrote in his first comment, your problem is most likely caused by the fact that you're reading the documentation for a more recent version of Django than the one you have installed. There is a version switcher at the bottom right hand side of every page of the documentation that will help you switch easily between version.

comment:6 Changed 17 months ago by anonymous

  1. No prior version of any software should have un-annotated documentation that claims the associated software it works, but does not. it literally takes two seconds to say 'depricated' on the docs. Further, the vast majority of the people in the world will have assorted old versions of Linux, the manufacturers of which will distribute old versions of the software. If I do a 'yum install' today, it's current software. If a version is broken, TELL US ABOUT IT!

2) You are wrong. I provided you with the exact technique to reproduce the bug; you just do not wish to fix an old version of the software.

3) I did not say that Django was 'totally worthless'. I said that a beginner's tutorial that claims broken software works in a specific way was worthless, and I stand by that statement. And, I WAS using and referring to version 1.4 of the documentation, as I've stated before.

I've done software dev my whole life. This bug report is what happens when you ignore maintaining the documentation.

comment:7 Changed 17 months ago by aaugustin

You have made your point perfectly clear. We aren't interested in having discussions where people SHOUT. If you won't admit that you missed the paragraph of the tutorial that tells you to check that the version of Django and of the docs match, please use another web framework and give us a break. Thank you.

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